November 25, 2002
Questions About 9-11
An Interview with Jared Israel
"What Really Happened on 9-11?" a transcript of an interview of Jared Israel by Mark Haim WKOPN 89.5 FM in Missouri on 2 April, 2002, can be read or listened to at emperors-clothes.com.Here's an excerpt:
* MARK HAIM
Very quickly, after the tragic events of September 11th you-all devoted a rather extensive portion of your Website to a critique of the information we were given. Do you want to share just a broad outline of what your research has shown?
* JARED ISRAEL
Well, the first thing that shocked me and a lot of other people too because I've heard this from people in the military and the Customs Department - was that no planes went in the air over Washington, D.C. until after the Pentagon was hit.
* MARK HAIM
You're talking about planes that might intercept incoming -
* JARED ISRAEL
Yeah. Intercept doesn't necessarily mean an aggressive act. It means a plane goes up and interacts with another plane.
There's a huge Air Force Base 10 miles from the Pentagon, Andrews Air Force Base, that has two combat-ready fighter wings. The Air National Guard Fighter Wing describes itself as being maintained in the highest possible state of combat readiness. None of those planes went in the air. But then, a few minutes after the Pentagon was hit, they did go in the air, because we have news reports about that. Why would that happen?
* MARK HAIM
So essentially, four planes are hijacked and they're able to observe these planes on their radar, going off course and yet, no response. Is that it?
* JARED ISRAEL
Well, here's for example. At 9:06 the FAA, according to their account, closed the air corridor between Cleveland and Washington, DC. If they closed this air corridor, which is one of the most extreme actions the FAA has ever taken, why wouldn't they put planes in the air over Washington? [1]
* MARK HAIM
This is after the -
* JARED ISRAEL
After the first two hits. The second World Trade Center hit was at 9:03, approximately. So this was at 9:06, within three minutes.
The U.S. has a very sophisticated air force. On Emperor's Clothes we posted some of the documents which lay out what NORAD, the FAA - the Federal Aviation Administration - and the Joint Chiefs of Staff are supposed to do when there's a hijacking. [2]
The FAA says they knew or strongly suspected there was a hijacking by 8:20. [3]
We believe they knew sooner but let's take their word. Vice President Cheney said on 'Meet the Press' on September 16th, that the Secret Service went on emergency open lines with the FAA as soon as the first plane hit the World Trade Center. Which was at 8:45 Eastern Time, right? So, if the Secret Service was on open lines to the FAA at 8:45; if at 9:06 the corridor between Washington and Cleveland was closed, then how could it be that no planes were put in the air over Washington?
* MARK HAIM
What time was the Pentagon hit?
* JARED ISRAEL
The Pentagon was hit at approximately 9:45 Eastern Time, so we're talking about an hour and 40 minutes between the time they knew there was a hijacking and the time the Pentagon was hit. That hijacked plane was flying west from Boston. So they knew it could have been flying to Washington, right? Why didn't they put planes in the air?